Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
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Martin Saffer
Sep 14, 2011
6:03 am
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Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
Among the many regulations needed but absent from those being talked about in Charleston is the need to test water quality prior to drilling at the time of application for permits and at the cost of the driller for the area drilled and surround area within two miles. Additionally a significant bond should be posted in an amount sufficient to guarantee best practices and adequate compensation if water is harmed. A five million bond to me seems reasonable. Now here is what your Governor proposed: |
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normanalderman
Sep 14, 2011
8:28 am
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Re: Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
This is the very reason that I am not voting for Tomblin. |
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jblee
Sep 14, 2011
9:30 am
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Re: Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
I just looked at the WV map of Marcellus shale in WV one area of highest concentration in the N center of the state N of 33 in Barbour county. Why are all the existing wells concentrated in pockets to the W of the state, instead of where the shale is located? http://www.wvgs.wvnet.edu/www/datastat/Marcellus/Downloads/WVMarcellusMap_pagesize_20110428.pdf |
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Martin Saffer
Sep 14, 2011
10:20 am
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Re: Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
My guess would be existing infrastructure is already in those places but I assure you it will spread everywhere people allow it to spread. |
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Joe Ferretti
Sep 14, 2011
10:38 am
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Re: Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
Norman, I am no Tomblin fan but I can assure you that the other guy (Maloney) will stand for even less regulation. He owns a mine drilling equipment company by the way. |
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Martin Saffer
Sep 14, 2011
10:42 am
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Re: Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
Here are my suggestions for our Commission to formally send to the Legislature and DEP on the impending regulations which must be more than window dressing for an oil and gas free for all: Gentlemen: Please accept these comments on proposed rules and legislation to regulate horizontal gas drilling in the Marcellus shale. The Pocahontas County Commission is gravely concern about the impacts to our pristine environment and rural culture from the impending possibility of hydrofracture drilling in the Marcellus shale underlying our borders. As well, we, as a governing body, do not want our local rights on this very local issue usurped or diminished by State government. The Commission views the present proposed rules as grossly inadequate and failing to speak to our county's unique needs. First, we challenge the notion that our authority as a County Commission to enact our own protective rules as to public nuisance and protection of public health and safety under our general police powers are diminished by any actions, or lack thereof, that may occur by legislation or state administrative rule. We make the following suggestions as to the proposed legislation and rules:
The County Commission views the gold rush fever to drill as the most grave danger to the county since its formation. The dangers and impacts associated with drilling, if permitted to manifest, can not be retrieved successfully by fines or damage awards. Our rural and envious culture and valuable water can not be sacrificed on an old altar erected in Charleston to the forlorn history of extraction of resources at the expense |
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Martin Saffer
Sep 14, 2011
10:56 am
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Re: Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
I read these suggested regulations over and surprised myself with two conclusions: |
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Jeffrey Hall
Sep 14, 2011
12:43 pm
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Re: Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
I understand that current regulations allow drilling within 250 feet of an existing water well. Does anyone think that is sufficient??? 1,000 feet would be the bare minimum I strongly concur with the suggestions, with emphasis on water testing before, during, and after drilling, at costs to the driller, along with a sufficient bond for the inevitable damages. |
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Martin Saffer
Sep 14, 2011
1:01 pm
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Re: Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
In any enterprise of business there are costs. Salaries, stationary, phones, electric, rent, garbage etc. These are borne by the person or company making the profit after the costs are deducted from revenues. All very simple but look at gas drilling. Who bears the costs of drilling....... for water resources ruined, for plummeting property values, for loss of tourism to people depending on it for jobs, to roads and bridges congested or ruined by undue use by trucks and machinery for which they were never intended, for loss of air quality, for loss of quiet and peaceful enjoyment of your property which is assaulted day and night by noise, light, bad air, bad water etc etc. These are costs not paid for by those making the profit as in a normal business. Nope, these costs are shifted over to you by the acquiescence of a State unwilling to say Boo! to gas or oil or coal. Unwilling to stand up for you in the coal fields when the local police were called out to stop labor unions, when your grandparents were kicked out of the company house in winter and children were born in tents. And the most unsettling thing to me is we do not have to tolerate this if we can just do the right things. |
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Jeffrey Hall
Sep 16, 2011
9:24 am
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Re: Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
I checked with "Downstream Strategies" about the costs of testing my water well to establish a baseline prior to Marcellus drilling imminent in this area. Here is the email response: "Thanks for being in touch. We have tested many wells in West Virginia for people concerned about imminent Marcellus drilling, in order to establish baseline water conditions. The cost depends on exactly what we test for, and also on whether we can monitor many nearby wells on the same day. If so, then the extra travel costs can be shared across the neighbors. The company's brochure states the average cost to test a water supply ranges from $1,000 for a basic test to $3,000 for a comprehensive test. It's doubtful that many can afford or desire to pay such costs on their own. And given this, does anyone wonder why the gas companies have us over a barrell on this??? This type of cost is the reason why the drillers/gas companies should be required by law to bear baseline water testing costs up front as part of their cost of doing business here. |
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Martin Saffer
Sep 16, 2011
10:34 am
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Re: Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
Pocahontas Health Department can do the Official in Charleston Gas and Oil water test for $233.00 |
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David Litsey
Sep 16, 2011
10:57 am
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Re: Commission Should Require Pre-Drilling Tests for Water
The question there is, "Are the parameters tested for the same?" or does the "official 'in Charleston' gas and oil water test," include We recommend testing for: acidity, alkalinity, aluminum, arsenic, barium, benzene, bromide, calcium, chloride, ethylbenzene, hardness, iron, lead, manganese, methane, pH, sodium, strontium, sulfate, surfactants, toluene, total dissolved solids, total petroleum hydrocarbons-diesel range organics, total petroleum hydrocarbons-gas range organics, total petroleum hydrocarbons-oil range organics, and xylene. It is what you don't have data on, that comes back to bite you. PS Does the devil wear suits like the two guys on the front pages of the Charleston Gazette in the last couple of days? |