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Another View of "Takings"

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Martin Saffer
Oct 3, 2011
12:48 pm
Another View of "Takings"

Do you think that when a private property owner's quiet enjoyment, water or property value is adversely impacted and ruined by drilling on nearby property (which would be a permitted and state "regulated" activity) that would be a takings justifying compensation?

J Miller
Oct 3, 2011
2:09 pm
Re: Another View of "Takings"

It seems to me that a neighbor's action that adversely affects the quiet enjoyment of one's property is the basis for a tort claim for money damages. In this scenario, the government does not actively appropriate property for a public use or purpose, so taking is not an issue. If, on the other hand, the government bans an activity as being inherently dangerous to public health and safety, there would likewise be no taking because the activity never should be conducted in the first place. The fact that property was leased with the intent to conduct a dangerous activity does not mean the activity should be allowed when the time comes to exercise the lease-rights. Property rights are not absolute; activities may be restricted or banned depending on circumstances that can be substantiated. Pumping fracking fluid at very high pressure through karst is inherently dangerous because it cannot be done without significant likelihood that one or more casing joints or cementing of the casings will fail and cause irreperable damage to underground water flows. This matter should be about the water first, and property rights and leaseholder rights second.

David Litsey
Oct 3, 2011
2:45 pm
Re: Another View of "Takings"

I tend to agree with J. Miller. In the Sewer world, when you operate improperly, then the downstream neighbors have a right of compensation that is done under trespass and nuisance litigation. The danger here can be life threatening as well, but it has not been classified as is a taking. There is case law across the country on this - the twist here is the special underground conditions to would aggravate the normal dangers associated with fracking.

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